Theres much interesting reading on the Donald MacLeod thread, including this 1988 quote posted Thursday by Malcolm, from Mr James Fraser: his response failed to allay my fears that there was some truth in the allegations. If/when he does come forward to confess and repent of past bad behavior, he and Willow Creek elders will no longer be viewed as honest and credible among the remaining members. We have a problem with people who now want to pile on the growing number of women who are coming forward with similar stories. Willow wont even list Mars Hill on Steve Carters website bio. Im thinking of 2 comments right now from over a year ago in which you reposted comments you attempted to post elsewhere. An evangelical pastor has resigned from his position at the helm of a California megachurch, more than eight months after its board first learned he failed to prevent his pedophile son from volunteering with children. I looked it up and way down on the list it says rarely it might cause some to do things they dont remember. John & Nancy Ortberg are known to be false teachers, mis-leading the body of Christ teaching unbiblical things such as contemplative prayer which amounts to nothing other than New Age mysticism. Like the invitation sent out to for the Family Meetings, and the actual meetings themselves. @ #UnbiblicalPaths: Because my -and others- comments are moderated, there can be a lot of instantly-posted discussion between a (approval-needed) comment and when it appears. And ironically, asking that question is why. So done. That is not old school. I hope someone captured that document. From there, John moved from California to Illinois at Willow Creek Community Church based in South Barrington where he served as a teaching pastor in Illinois until 2003. Is faith journey a synonym for sanctification? That was Pauls charge to Timothy. John Ortbergs scandal reflects this truth and this reality. [14][15] Their youngest, John III, known as Johnny, was an Ultimate Frisbee coach until late 2019. Or is this site simply about wholesale condemnation. Cliffe, who has a young son, said she believes her friends can no longer be trusted. just questioning a seeker sensitive approach can bring down a fair amount of push -back , heat, and attacks on your faith So, now the geru of it has resigned, over minor or mad eup attacks?? I outlined above the typical reasons people dont mention uncomfortable incidents with someone they trust or admire. It legitimately creates automatic suspicion, and potential legal woes. Prestige of Willow Creek? Kick out the immoral/abusive pastors. When I confronted him, most people said I made it up or misunderstood, even though I know they saw him go after others. To fellowship with other believers? Good night!!! Bob Smietana March 22 . That length is reserved for the husband/wife relationship, comforting someone, or greeting someone close whom you havent seen in a long time. (2) A face-to-face conversation with Bill Hybels on April 6th. I am one of His people. You get a time out. You watch a kid in a souped up car on the highway darting in and out at excessive speeds and say I hope he gets picked up..
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